we heard from the nra chief. we making progress? >> when it comes to guns in the control of guns to absolutely not. what we have really lost control of are the gangs. i did the story of a chicago this morning. i talked about the not -- a mother who has lost four children to gun violence in one family. a daughter and three sons, the latest just recently, and the gangs are what are out of control. chicago police have no control over them. the sister-in-law's angeles. not only true in the major urban centers, get cain violence is taking over the suburbs and even rural areas in america. we do virtually nothing about it. here in new york there is a major gang squad unit that works very hard all the time. i think that there are hundreds involved in it, and even they have trouble, if you remember this past summer, they cordoned off a blocked because the gangs, they knew the gangs are going to be fighting in the streets and the cubs cordoned it off and would not let people know wind that live there. lori: gang violence, video games. so many